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In this clip, Vlad and Michael Jai White discussed the evolution of rap music and its impact on society. They noted that the song, "The Message," marked a turning point for the genre, with its thought-provoking lyrics causing critics to view rap as an art form. Following this, the emergence of N.W.A and others led to a thematic shift towards gang violence, which arguably overshadowed the more nuanced messages in rap music. Michael Jai White also reflected on the misinterpretation of 'def' as 'death,' pointing to the negative connotations of violence and rebellion this brought to the genre. Additionally, Vlad and Michael Jai White touched on the iconic rapper Tupac, with the actor revealing that his wife, Gillian White, was a backup dancer for Tupac during a Howard University Homecoming in 1993.